We also use the octagram last summer. I put it in a painful place, and my pain is over, no matter if it’s the middle or the head. When we leave home, each one takes his octagon with him. One month ago, my octagram was not to be found. I shivered the whole house, my pockets, my bag. Nothing. So I ordered one before, just before the holidays. Meanwhile, the spell that had disappeared reappeared as magic in the purse. What to do now with the new one? I immediately found use of it: she is a friend of the kitchen bottles with the bread they do on two days, and if I put the octagram under it or on it, it grows out of water! Thank you, Mr. Davidoni, to keep God healthy!